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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by King Metrius
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I have a theory about snape being good, and not killing dumbledore at all, i think that they faked the murder and dumbledore died because he was the one that took the vow disguised as snape, I think that dumbledore didn't act on harrys hunch about draco because to do so would cause him to break the vow, I honestly think that the spiders in the book refrences to dumble dore and the spinners end tittle is where the spider spins his own demise, Hagrids pet spider died in this book and so does dumbledore, so to me thats a hint that dumbledore is the spinner
now i have other evidence, like the fact that the snape in spinners end is able to tell when someone is ease droppin on him, (wormtail is listening at the door) now why JKR have Snape invent the Mufflation spell if he knows when someones is ease droppin, and why didn't she have him simply use this spell if it was snape.
with these ideas in mind i believe it couldn't have been snape making the vow, the argument is another clue, why, snape the man who obviously is only doing what he must to survive not want to complete the vow if his life was at stake? now he would only not want to do it if he didn't have to, if he had a choice, with the vow the plans a no brainer for snape right? now the biggest clue is the drinks, we see alot of dumbledore this book and we see how he conduct's himself even with eneimes, he always offers a drink, which was done to the sisters, as well as the dursleys and the even voldemort, Now for my theory to be true i believe at first Dumbledore(deguised as snape) didn't know the details of the task, but after a couple sips of the elf wine dumbledore offered them i believe reading there minds became easier- we know that he has slipped people things in there drinks before, the lady at the orphange where young tom riddle was, so with this posted i hope u have fun atleast reading it and trying to prove or disprove it, tell me what u guys think
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by sirius' one-and-only&
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i think that the therioes you guys have sed are really good.. like the one about the locket and also thw one about zacharias smith! i also think that that sword harry used to kill the basolisk in the 2nd is a horcrux. and hoe could harry be a horcrux?! that so lame because he's the only one that can kill voldemort!! gosh! x0
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by Tonks!!!!
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Hin anonymous! I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with your theory, and let me explain you why: first of all, we know that the scar is the product of the Avada Kedavra curse, that's why Harry is SO important: because he's the only one that is known that survived to it... so, it's in other words, THAT SCAR, IS WHAT KILLED VOLDEMORT.. and, of course, his soul---> horcux, wouldn't kill him, right?? and, in any case, like it says on top of this topic... if harry were a horcrux, he'd have to kill himself to kill voldemort, and NOT have to let other people do his job... i think that's it... see you!!
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by Anonymous
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I don't think anyone really wants to think that Harry will die in book 7, but the truth is, of the Harry/Ron/Hermione dynamic, Harry is the one who is disposable. Ron and Hermione are obviously a couple now, so they need eachother, but Harry is the character that could die. But, my theory is that the horcrux is actually his scar, not Harry himself. If Harry himself were the horcrux, he would have to kill himself and someone else would have to finish Voldie off, and that is not what the prophecy said. But Harry could live without his scar.
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by "Loony" Luna
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The page about regulus' middle name is in spanish... it has all the characters that appear on the book... if you know spanish maybe you can ckeck it out... www.eldiccionario.org
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by "Loony" Luna
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I know a page i've been reading the other day (dumbledoreisnotdead.com), that sais sth about dumbledore's death, that there are some lines in the american edition that the UK doesn't have and makes some things more obvious about that theory that Snape is good... I also want to know the last horcrux! the locket, the cup, riddle's diary, the ring, and...
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by Ginny4eva
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Cool theory so do you think that Harry is gonna have to die at the end? Also if you can post where you got the info on Regulus' middle name. I love to read new theories. I agree with you Luna that Gryffindor's Sword probably is not a horcrux but I cant wait to see what the last horcruxes are.
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by "Loony" Luna
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There's a site where it sais that his name's Regulus Arcturus Black... I think although Voldemort likes horcruxes from stuff of Hogwarts founders, it's obvious that Godric Gryffindor's sword it's not a horcrux, because Harry uses it in book two.
I think Harry's gonna have a horcrux... why? because although he didn't "kill" Voldemort, he had to live in anotherone's body! so he can make a horcrux...
I hope you can understand, I'm not from U.S.A
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by Ginny4eva
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I think Voldemort just wanted to get his future threat out of the way so he could take over freely. If Harry is a horcrux I dont think Voldie meant for it to happen. And as for the Snape theory I dont know if you read my other theory on this website it is under "My Theory about Snape" or you could copy and paste the address http://www.pliner.net/appmb/12dabb/167139
on your browser.
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by Fleur delacour
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You know, nobody really knows what happened the night Voldie disapeared. I thought that maybe he didnt try to kill Harry at all but tried ( after killing James and Lilly ) to " Horcrux " Harry and then, it didnt work Bcuz of Lilly's protection. What dya think?
And, yeah, Im like u and i dont wanna beleive Harry's an Horcrux, cuz he'll have to die at the very end!
Ho, yeh, i forgot, after reading HP6, some people r tottaly convinced that Snape is good!! Personally, i was 100 sure he was evil but then i read some theories ( im sure u must have read them two ) sayin it was cuz Dumbledore asked him to do it, ect... And id really like to know ur opinion bout that. XXX
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by Ginny4eva
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Hey Fleur!! I have read that theory too. If you want to believe the theory that Harry himself is a horcrux then I can give you evidence to support it. First, we have to remember that the night Voldie killed Lily and James Potter the spell to kill Harry malfunctioned so anything could have happend. If you look in book six we know that Voldie liked to make horcruxes on special occasions and with special items. If my memory serves me, Dumbeldore even guesses that Voldie was one horcrux short so he could have been planning to make it with Harry's death. Also, in Chamber of Secrets you notice the similarities between Harry and Voldimort. At the end of book two Dumbeldore says that they had the same power of talking to snakes because Voldie must have accidentally "transphered some of his power to [Harry]" (or some of his soul perhaps). BUT IF YOUR LIKE ME, you dont want to believe that Harry is a horcrux and I have evidence to support that his IS NOT one or at least not anymore. First, you have to remember Lily Potter's protection. For the first 13 years Vodie coundn't even touch Harry without feeling pain. In the end of book 4 Voldie could finally touch him but in book five it was evedent that Voldie's mind couldn't possess Harry's body because it was still too painful. So I think even if Harry turned out to be a horcrux, Voldie's soul couldn't possible servive in a person so filled with the power that Voldie hates, LOVE. PS: Your english is fine XXX BACK:)
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RE: Horcruxes
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posted by fleur delacour
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hi ginny! I've read somewhere a theory : Harry could be one of the horcruxes. I know it may be hardly possible but think, harry's headache, his strange connection with Voldemort, and all that kinda stuff. That would mean that at the end he'll have to kill himself to kill Voldie, this would be a spectacular end, woudnt it? Of course, its just a theory. What do u think about it?
XXX
ps : I'm french so, sorry 4 the mistakes!
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Horcruxes
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posted by Ginny4eva
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Part two- Has any one thought it was odd that the decendent of Helga Huffelpuff's last name was Smith (Hepzibah Smith)and there is a boy at school with Harry that is in Huffelpuff and his name is Zacharias Smith. I think there might be something there but I cant put my finger on it yet. If you have any ideas please post them.
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Horcruxes
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posted by Ginny4eva
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We all know that Tom Riddle's Diary and his ring were Horcruxes and are now gone. That leaves the locket, Huffelpuff's cup, the snake, and something of Griffidor's or Ravenclaw's. If we reread book five and read book six we find out that while cleaning Black's house there was a "heavy gold locket" that no one could open and so they put it in a bag full of junk(like silver cups with the Black family crest) that Sirius didn't want anymore. In book six the same locket in Hokey's memory was described as "a heavy gold locket". I think here is where we can make the assumption that R.A.B. is Regulus Black. I think Regulus' middle name is Alphard after his uncle. Most of the character's in Rowling's HP series have family middle names, for example Harry James Potter and Ginny Molly Weasely. I think Sirius' middle name was from his father and the younger brother's (Regulus) middle name was after his uncle. We know that Regulus was a Death Eater and the note in the locket refered to Voldemort as the Dark Lord (only current and former Death Eater's call him that). WHERE IS THE LOCKET NOW? In book six Mundungus gets caught by Harry stealing a bag full of stuff like cups with the Black family crest. That proves it is the same bag where the locket is and Mundungus takes off with it. Later on Harmione reads in the Daily Prophet that Mundungus has been arrested but there is no word on what happend to the stuff he stole. So until the seventh book comes out we dont know where the locket ended up. All we know is that Harry is going to have to ask Mundungus what he did with it.
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