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RE: croydon libary ban
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posted by kimball
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YEA they do like to china bash dont they just to divert attention
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RE: croydon libary ban
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posted by kimball
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Im taking up your advice using high john the conquer oil any letter's i send to my m.p's or local constitue's. tho i think it might be a security fault with ther computers since they have had trouble with ther computer's for years. will keep you posted
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[INFOBURST: Thanks for that Kimball, the use of High John is a great idea and please do let us all know how you get on. It is interesting to reflect that shortly after you placed your original news about Croydon capitulating to the Xists and banning the S.A. the campaign by Google to counter censorship of the net by the Chinese government made headline news! So easy for the Establishment to divert the plebs'attentions away from what is happening to denude THEIR freedom of speech in favour of criticising a politically convenient scapegoat eh?
BB Denise W]
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croydon libary ban
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posted by kimball
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just found out that my local libary (croydon clocktower)internet has ban the s.a website from it's server. im gob smack. and tick off
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[Infoburst: So much for liberal academe! When this kind of censorship happens it is usually because the library has accepted a third party fundie inspired ban list which cleverly blacklists the most well known occult bookshops etc. If you complain to the head librarian they can set our site so it is seen by adults surfing the net and not by under 18s, though as we already impose our own voluntary ban on sales to under 18s
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( see this for why ) </a> and there is nothing illegal on our website it is suitable for general use and these bans simply underline how the dissemination of important spiritual truths are being
censored by religious prejudice. Of course they wouldn't think twice about including images of a naked Jesus with his hands and feet nailed to a cross and with blood gushing from a gaping wound in his side - showing that to children is not only permissible but actually welcomed by mosts of the hypocrites who want to ban occult books as being psychologically damaging for children! Thanks for letting us know. BB Denise W.]
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RE: Do we live in a totalitarian society
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posted by Anonymous
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PART THREE:
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Every person who has ever 'swallowed' any of the many false scares which the ruling elite has created over the past few decades, (Satanic Ritual Child Abuse, Global Warming etc.,) is guilty of supporting and condoning their own mental incarceration. That is why, as Herne queried, Satanism is so important for the well-being of mankind. Satanists can be relied upon to keep the doors of free-thought open in all creative areas. Artists, musicians, writers and unorthodox beliefs everywhere owe a real and very deep debt of gratitude to the many self-styled satanists who have trod the path of mental liberation, sometimes at great personal cost over many hundreds of years to keep those pathways of free-thought open. Love 'em or hate 'em, satanists should be the FIRST people to be offered support and protection when they are attacked by the Establishment because if they fall, so will we all. An understanding of how our interests are bound up with theirs, is one of the first stages on the way to adepthood.
Obviously here I am speaking of genuine satanists, and not the pimple-faced teenage wannabees who dance around in graveyards to get some attention.
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You can find more background to this debate on the SAFF website here:</a>
Keep up The Good Work
Denise Wadsworth, Scribe to Marabas
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RE: Do we live in a totalitarian society
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posted by Denise W
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PART TWO:
Oh, except in parliament of course, where the defamation law doesn't apply and any MP can say what he wants to about you, however much of a lie it might be, and is protected by 'parliamentary privilege'.
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The history of the internet encapsulates how the ruling elite retake control using subterfuge based on the ignorance and stupdity of the masses. The internet is TRULY democratic. When first originated anyone could say what they liked about anything. Of course a lot of this was evil nonsense but it was at least a level playing field of evil nonsense which enabled free-thinkers to make an informed decision. This gave power to the people.
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Just like the printing presses threatened the monopoly of the church in the 15c, it became clear that the internet made parliament obsolete. What is the point of continuing with a 400 year old system designed when it took an MP three days to travel by coach from his constituency to Parliament to vote? In those days there was no alternative. The local political system was set up to supposedly seek out the feelings of constituents and convey it to Parliament where the MP supposedly voted en-bloc for what they wanted. Now we can do that with the press of a button on the internet. It is technically possible now for EVERYONE to have a say in EVERYTHING that goes on in this country and give their vote on ALL matters pertaining to our laws - within an instant.
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Parliament is obsolete, but the democratists will not relinquish power and to protect themselves they used the old trick of firstly trying to discredit the medium - building an image of the internet as evil, wicked, untrustworthy, criminal, etc. and, particularly, massaging scares about the lack of security of information (so that they could use it as a reason to refuse to set up on-line voting) regardless of the farcical security surrounding ballot boxes and postal votes! Regardless of the fact that 99% of government confidential data is digitised.
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In order to take control of the internet, (just as the churches took control of the printing presses in the 15c.) they have turned it against the people and now use leading-edge technology to surrveil YOU and I and everyone else to a point which is so intrusive that it would have been completely unacceptable and caused revolution 25 years ago. Marabas explained all this and prophecied it all and more, in detail when he wrote
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Secrets of Mind Control (see details here which every freethinker should read and can download)</a> decades ago but the point to remember is not the individual indignities which the government imposes almost daily but the root cause of it as outlined above.
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In a democracy the people at the top will only listen to their citizens if they threaten their powerbase. 30 years ago when the Green Party first began they were considered fanatics. The moment they began to get votes ALL the parties moved Green-Left in their policies and now Labour has gone into idiotic overdrive concerning the Global Worming scare. BNP policies were condemned until they began winning seats over immigration whereupon the main parties all adopted anti-immigration policies considered unacceptable before. The very moment the public catch-up to what the politicians are doing with IT is the time when they can be stopped - that is why they MUST control the Information Technology Revolution and have, under the guise of 'security', imposed restrictions, censorship and invoked punitive new laws to all but destroy the lives of anyone who tries to breach those restrictions.
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Every person who has ever 'swallowed' any of the many false scares which the ruling elite has created over the past few decades, (Satanic Ritual Child Abuse, Global Warming etc.,) is guilty of supporting and condoning their own mental incarceration. That is why, as Herne queried, Satanism is so important for the we
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RE: Do we live in a totalitarian society
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posted by Denise W
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I agree with your sentiments Herne and your heartfelt comments. I believe many hundreds of thousands of other citizens of the Western World who have seen their inalienable human rights destroyed in progressive fashion over the past 25 years are also becoming aware of the tyranny which is unfolding. Marabas teaches that this is a BIG subject because it actually involves all aspects of human creative thought and endeavour and to try to sum up everything in one statements is virtually impossible. However, Marabas says it is all about Power and the Control of Power and though this cycle has been going on for millennia it is easier to understand it if we look at relatively modern times.
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The basic recipe goes like this: We have been pap fed the illusion of democracy for 400 years by the ruling monarchistic elites worldwide who eked out their power in a feigned democracy as a controlled alternative to other systems which would completely remove them. The Magna Carta didn't bring democracy to the people, it just swapped one greedy megalomaniac (the King) with a bunch of greedy megalomaniacs (the Barons). The English Civil War didn't bring democracy it just replaced a bunch of Baronial megalomanicas with a bunch of religious fundamentalists in a pseudo-theocracy. The lie that Democracy is the only alternative has been ingrained into our minds by Democratists to such an extent that it has become the justification for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and many other sins, including carpet bombing women and children in the cities of the Ruhr in WWII, yet the ancient Greeks who originated the idea of Democracy didn't actually think much of it and chose other ways of living communally instead. The Romans of course had their Dictators and they didn't make too bad a job of civilisation for the thousand or so years they were the major superpower.
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The con in Democracy is the idea that everyone has a vote, a say, in what happens but obviously history shows this only applies to things which are not of importance. There is no way that the 5,000 mandarins who influence the destiny of this country are going to allow plebs like you and I to make the 'wrong' choice in a referendum - witness the renaging of the promised referendum on membership of the EEC by labour and MANY other instances which did not please our economic masters. When did you vote as to whether Britain should go to war in Iraq? The real purpose of democracy is to fool the people into believing that what they think matters and that the system provides them with at least a modicum of power or control over what happens. In reality they have none, witness the sight of over a million pro-countryside protesters in the centre of London being completely ignored by the government.
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Of course the one absolutely crucial thing to any Democracy is a Bureaucracy. Without this it cannot function to control and oppress the lives of its citizens. When the Bureaucracy fails, the political bullies call in the state police. When the uprising becomes too big for the police to handle the troops are sent in, witness the Peterloo massacre of starving workers protesting for their rights and being cut down by the sabres of English mounted cavalry in the middle of Manchester in August 1819.
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The modern people who control us know the score. They know that it is better to give a little, to duck and dodge and sing the platitudes of Nationalism than to send in the troops to kill their own citizens. Thus deceit has become the main control method used by the Democratists. They tell lies, they cheat, they bring honour into disrepute and they can look you straight in the eye and do it because they many years ago put laws in place to censor your free-speech and say what you want to. Oh, except in parliament of course, where the defamation law doesn't apply and any MP can say what he wants to about you, however much of a lie it might be, and is protected by 'parliamentary
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RE: Do we live in a totalitarian society
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posted by wolfie
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I was going to dive in on this one but decided I'd only end up ranting. It's easier to say that I heartilly agree with everything you've wrote! I can't remember who spoke the words but they said them some while ago that the government would do well to remember that Orwell's 1984 was a warning for the future and not a blueprint!
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Do we live in a totalitarian society
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posted by Herne
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Do we live in a totalitarian society? And do we have a right as individuals or groups to lobby MPs to ban other people interests or lifestyles?
The government and MPs have jumped on the bandwagon over the last 5 years and we have seen restrictions over our lifes, under laws on health and safety, national security and moral decency, and it has been quite clear that PM Gordon Brown has been on his own moral crusade over the past few years, what the next government will be like I shudder to think.
Like what was said on a channel 4 documentary "Dance with the devil" if we allow pressure groups to draw the line, how long will it be before they want to move that line further back?
Our government can get around the human right laws by using, health and safety, national security and moral decency laws so really their are no human right laws, due to the loophole that the politicians conveniently put their.
But who is responsible for all of these new laws? With regret, society as a whole, each and very one of us with our own moral axe to grind, there are many groups that fight for liberty like SAFF, liberty International, backlash and forest are but a few, but again a lot of these groups also don`t like each other philosophy, so infighting amongst these groups only makes it easier for governments to pass more totalitarian laws.
I think back in the late 80s a SAFF newsletter reported that a pagan organisation said why should they protect satanism? It wasn't their religion.
But I think it was said by the SAFF, an attack on satanism is an attack on all alternative beliefs if we allow satanism to fall who will be next?
Freedom is like layers once the top one has eroded it exposes the one underneath to moral erosion and so on.
The smoking ban and the fox hunting ban has had far more implications than you ever thought, because other things have been banned under health and safety and moral decency, just look at the sorcerers apprentice, many of the things it once sold are banned, like buzz zing snuff, herbal high and many herbs are but a few, and some of their stock is under threat from new laws. "I stand corrected if I am wrong"
Some of you may rejoice over certain things that get banned, but remember eventually it will affect you in one way or another, what goes around comes around.
So who is responsible totalitarian society? You are in one way or another.
What ever happened to live and let live?
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