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Topic RE: Demonic entities. posted by luck9 User
posted on October 02, 2008 at 06:08 PM
edited on October 03, 2008 at 03:29 PM
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I want to sincerely and respectfully thank B888 for his replies.
I have to be honest and say that I know nothing of demons/hell etc but I was very shocked to learn about Qlipah's etc. I must point out that Anon described HIS FRIEND'S experiences, not his own, so perhaps he should be VERY WARY OF THIS SO-CALLED FRIEND??
From your experiences, what do you feel? Could Anon, unwittingingly, be being made a fool of by his friend? Is his friend actually evil/nasty/corrupted to be saying such worrying things to him? Anon is obviously very concerned & scared, which is why he has written for advice in the first place!
So,What is your advice?


[Infoburst: My advice is not to believe anything that you do not yourself experience first hand. When pretenders in the occult run out of their limited amount of knowledge they often either make it up to avoid embarrassment or go off on a flight of Yesodic fantasy to pander to the worst fears of the people who are daft enough to listen to them.
Marabas teaches that Qlippothic entities are simply the unbound negative aspects of one's own personality and meeting one accidentally is a sure sign that there is a distinct lack of initiatehood and occult development. Trust in the people you know - trust in the S.A. If Luck9 is having problems listening to idiots he should save himself a lot of grief and write direct to Marabas about it for a DEFINITIVE response - this forum is not a teach-in for people who haven't yet supported the S.A. BB Denise W. ]

Topic Demonic entities. posted by Babalonuit888 User
posted on October 02, 2008 at 04:09 PM Reply to this Message Write
Hi Every One, What a glorious, sunny day!
In contrast, my final words on this subject, are to clarify points, for anyone whose been observing.
It appears that I've blurred lines between demonic types:
The Qlippoth, is the Hebrew name for the hells, and the inhabitants;Qlipah, singular.
A shell, is the cast off vehicle of a man whose life has been 'evil' in the normal sense, e.g. a paedophile murderer.
These entities, have a trace of conciosness, like a smear of holy oil, left in the shell, that's all. A sort of automaton, not very bright: They will/do drain certain energies from the living, to prolong their 'existance'. If you notice one, see which magick will banish, or, destroy! Do us all a favour, and cleanse the place, every little helps!
Example of a different type of demon. They eject the soul, and drain energies from the body. Their form suggests they were once human, with magical knowledge. However, they posess the organ that gods, all spirits posess. One theory is that they were high catholic priests, who avoided judgement, knowing the inevitable outcome!A Goetic demon, reads your mind, these, different types, seem commited to various types of evil. My Guru had one sent after him, by a black lodge, who wanted rid of him. Myself, I banished the offending article, as a teenager. Some years later, stronger, refined, I dove into hell, and caught the 'thing', getting its name, by applying Holy names; I chained it, and looked at my dictionary of demons, which I'd not read, so I couldn't delude myself. I found it: 'One of the 5 demons most responsible for posession in the 1500's.' Well, well. I had a chip on my shoulder, 'cos of 'it', and had eradicated every demon I could find, leading to a fascinating discovery, at the bottom of Hell. (Another time, I'll explain my findings)
Conclusion: 'anon' may be a qlipah in the making, but his masters, are likely to be as described. 'Playing with fire?' There's more,
yet I never would have explained this much, except that events provoked it. I'm saying no more.
If you, the average aspirant, follow the admirable OEXP's,for I, am not a natural Teacher, Fr. Marabus is an excellent Teacher, such Art!- and study-practice, you'll overcome these little obstacles.
I hope this knowledge serves you well.
Laughter, Joy and Holiness! Now, you're a little more clued in!
Serenity-One>All
888
Topic give Anon a break!! c'mon guys........ posted by luck9 User
posted on October 01, 2008 at 01:27 PM
edited on October 02, 2008 at 10:35 AM
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you are being REALLY harsh on the poor guy.

As far as I can understand he just wrote about an experience a friend of his has had.........and was asking the forum, whether this could actually be possible?! or was it just mumbojumbo?

What is the big deal? It was only a stupid question!


[Infoburst: This thread involves really BIG questions about the human condition and the bigger the questions the more easily are they open to misinterpretation. Anon may not be aware of the initiated implications of the questions he posted and other posters may have gone off at a tangent based on a different assumption. The problem does not lie in the questions per se, but in the LACK OF DETAIL in the questions. Whenever you find a controversy occurring in this forum you will invariably see it stemming from unformed and partial questions. As Marabas always says. The Question is often more important than the answer. The Secrets of the Universe are secrets only because the right questions have not yet been asked. Contributors should try to give as much detail as possible when asking for help/advice to ensure they are not misunderstood. Forum regulars were right to question Anon's comments. Anon should have come back at them with corroboration and further detail and luck9 cannot fight his battles for him for the same reasons. Until Anon does substantiate we shall have to move on. BB Denise W. ]

Topic RE: SexMagick posted by Babalonuit888 User
posted on September 30, 2008 at 08:57 PM Reply to this Message Write
Yes Anne B.;
I figured this post could have come from several angles, including a 'wind up' by a sick person,. And yet, for those who can hear, a valuable warning has been issued.
As a Teen, I was used by an entity as described, which formed a lot of my personality.
I would not have mentioned this aspect, as it might provoke 'paranoia'. However warped 'anon' is, He's alerted people to the the savage truth.
Serenity-One>All.
Topic RE: SexMagick posted by AnnB User
posted on September 30, 2008 at 08:23 PM Reply to this Message Write
Dear old Anon you really are playing with fire aren't I dont for one moment believe anyone can be so ridiculous hidng behind the computer
There are folks that can trance and picture you so stop being so silly and enjoying winding up people who are genuine and are only trying to help someone who knows exactly what theyre doing
Topic RE: Sex Magic posted by Babalonuit888 User
posted on September 23, 2008 at 03:54 PM Reply to this Message Write
Dear 'SPIRITS FEEDING SHOUTS A LOT', anon.
So, you observe your energy being drained, and declare you can't do any thing. And thats it? Bend over? You've enough Spirit light,
to be nutritious, yet have neither wit nor will to help yourself.
You are a 'happy meal on legs' for some damned demon, and you won't defend yourself. For those who may benefit: Standard example: You are located; by your auric light, by vampire. He enters your body easily, you have not performed the Banishing ritual, raised shields. It ejects you from your physical body, and you may fly,'000h nice' or "float in ecstacy above my body," as written in B. Stokers Dracula. I, for One, would turn back to my earth body, and dive upon the demon lying in it, absobing my body energies into itself. Unable to be blessed with the light of God, such a creature exists on digestible human energies. Grasp him, rise rotating the demon anti-clock wise-banishing, vibrating The Holy name/s of God. This causes pain to the entity, unable to bear 'Sun light. It is Banished;Thereby. Or use distance banishing on Etheric/astral with pentagram, as described in post below.
Or evoke it, if able, to bind and banish. Later, catch it in Hell, get it's NAME, and, as a young magician, CONTROL. ; RAISE YOUR WILL for your Heavens sake! Control this demon, stop it using you!
I suggest:-contact S.A. when able... If you have the will to practise magickal defense.
Such are the words.
Serenity-One/All.
888
Topic RE: Lol posted by Babalonuit888 User
posted on September 23, 2008 at 02:06 AM Reply to this Message Write
Yes, Ricenpeas, I understand your well put structure, Demonology,
facinating.
I left a forum full of armchair Magicians, E.G. Of conversation:- "My three systems in a book, can fit your systems, so there are two distinct types of demon, the 'shells' and the 'Goetia'."
"Exactly, we have solved the puzzle." "Oh jolly well done"
It was awkward saying-" Yes. The systems overlay realities. If you got up and did some Magick, rather than balding, as you ramble on, and on, You would dicover other forms of demon, as in 'Legions of'
An astonishing range of type, raison d'etre, age, family, known history. They vary in intelligence, age and nature. 'Demon est Deus inversus'. These must be mastered-banished; before Magick proper may commence. Train well Warrior-Priest/ess, rule your path well.
They will do all possible, to shock, horrify and frighten you, for this is meat to certain types. Fear is your only real enemy.
When meeting an entity, appearing as your best friend, perhaps:-)
Ask their NAME, if It's 'Nigel', theyll mumble a wrong :-( approximation, or display other chicanery. Love; The holy Names of God, hurt them. Trace a pentagram, upright, upon their breast area, aim wand at centre and virate, boom: as you will, a Holy name of God, or several Holy names, until it is blown away! Banished!(-: The Tetragrammaton tends to do the job:-)
Enjoy The Ride,
One and All,
888
Topic Lol posted by Ricenpeas User
posted on September 18, 2008 at 06:13 PM
edited on September 19, 2008 at 03:44 PM
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Your presenteing yourself as an idiot Annon. Though I doubt I can change that I can expose your superstion as childish thinking by building a rough, rational, model which you can grasp.
Whenever we reach a sate of ecstacy our subconsious mind becomes suggestable. When we fantasise in a suggestable state we can become "possesd" by an idea. Keep feeding this idea and you have a problem, especialy if its not a sociably exeptable one. This happens all the time to lots of different people in all walks of life. In Magick we learn to manage our ideas through study and experience so we dont fall into the pitfalls of being eaten by our own ideas.
This is a very base approach and as has been pointed out, Demons dont like to be called "ideas", but it carry the point thats its better to Know Thyself than not.

Ricenpeas


[Well Said!]

Topic RE: Sex Magic posted by Anonymous User
posted on September 18, 2008 at 04:50 PM
edited on September 19, 2008 at 03:43 PM
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no.........the spirits FEED OFF OF YOUR SEXUAL ENERGY AND RITUAL EFFORTS.........you cannot control them.......I know someone who says he experienced this and he felt "controlled" by an outside force/ energy but that IT WAS EXTREMELY PLEASURABLE.....HEAVENLY


[INFOBURST: Will contributors PLEASE make up a pseudonym for themselves instead of putting in 'anonymous' or leaving it blank - which by default causes an 'anonymous' to appear. Otherwise newcomers to this forum will think that there is one really eclectic person making contradictory comments when it is in fact any number of people who have simply forgotten to make up a pseudonym for themselves! BB Denise

Topic RE: SexMagick posted by Anonymous User
posted on September 18, 2008 at 04:47 PM Reply to this Message Write
what on earth is succubi ?? how do you know if you have met one? are they evil?? what prevents them feeding off of you/your energy??

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