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Topic RE: Occult & Martial arts posted by ricenpeas User
posted on June 05, 2008 at 08:54 PM Reply to this Message Write
I have seen a demonstation by a Che Kung Master (exuse my pronouniation) which was very powerful and i have also heard a few rummors of German Occult Martial Art groups around the net but I would like to post this link for a bit of craic. Its a combo of a little bit of che and a lot of drama.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2023760018081411341&q=derren+brown+1+inch+punch&ei=nEBISMqaEo-8igKs5MjLDA&hl=en

Enjoy
RcenPeas
Topic Meditation, Yoga, Physical training. posted by Rob User
posted on June 05, 2008 at 02:11 PM Reply to this Message Write
Hi John,
Two books I would recommend:

Zen way to the Martial arts by Taisen Deshimaru which has a lot
on Ki energy and how Zazen balances the whole self. I don't do
MA myself but have all Deshimaru roshi's books. He was a rather
unorthodox Zen master who taught in France and had a very high
rank in Kendo in which the swordsmen try and keep an empty mind,
unconcerned with defence which would hold them back in fear.
With an empty mind they can act freely.

The Book of Results (Chaos magick) by Ray Sherwin: His recommended
system includes regular bouts of physical training, in the opinion
that an unhealthy body is not helpful in magick.
Also see Crowley's section on Yoga in his master-work 'Magick'.
I felt that the sections on Yoga, the world's religions and divination were the best parts of the book.

Regards, Rob.
Topic Occult & Martial arts posted by John W User
posted on May 31, 2008 at 10:37 PM Reply to this Message Write
Would anyone like to speak on the subject of Occult martial arts ?
I have done a style of Japanese Karate for many years preceeding
my occult interests but only once started to study Zen, then magic
did I begin to see the true purpose of martial arts training (although
for many it is merely for fitness or a sport depending on their art
and largely on their instructor/club)...For the japanese Masters it
has always been Karate-Do (Tao) and things like fighting competition
are a recent post WWII invention many masters detested, though
personally I think fighting with a zen-mind (or trying to: it's hard
to remain calm when trying to avoid a fat lip!) is superb practice.

I have found an article at the link below which although I am not a
Thelemite, I agree with totally, and would like others' opinion of
the article ? It is by David Cherubim:

http://www.totse.com/en/religion/the_occult/163734.html

A question I often have in my own mind is can physical exercise
be bad for you ? Can it make one too full of Yang energy ? When
I train I go very red in the face (not through being unfit) and I
feel 'high' and buzzing for an hour or so after practice but is
this an imbalance ? A contrast would be Tai-Chi where there is
little or no exertion, just soft movement and many Tai Chi
practitioners are also Taoists who would say external/hard
martial arts like Karate are unbalanced. Maybe this is why Karate
has Kata which so many enthusiasts eschew or practice only
for their next grading ? Kata is known as Moving-Zen.

Hope to hear anyone's views,

John W.

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