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Jesus myth - a well tested lie for mind control
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posted by Sandygrounds
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It must be remembered that modern society is now built on a pious lie, cleverly crafted by political activists of old. A lie that is widely - accepted as the only truth that will save our species from final damnation and the fires of Hell. The Life force is the Life force, plain and simple yet fundamentalists who created the Jesus myth back in the 1st century claimed later that a man (who was most likely fictitious) was the Son of God. This chap never left any writing done by himself behind and all the so-called evidence (biblical and indeed non-biblical) for his presumed historicity is easily disprovable propaganda, fantasy and hearsay; nothing more.
However, society has been drip fed tales about the Jesus Myth for so long that we now accept alleged truths about this 'man-god' largely without so much as a single question. This is just the way the powers that be like it for it's a wonderful time-tested lever to pull us into compliance at their continence.
For God and Country lads - over the top and never mind those machine guns ...... Ad finitum......
<P><I> [Infoburst - Hi Sandygrounds. It is true that there is much incontrovertible evidence that Jesus did not exist and some scientists and researchers have been trying to get this across to the public for decades. One in particular who has striven more than most and has all the facts to hand is Michael Roll - he once wrote a superb overview of this debate <a href="http://www.sorcerers-apprentice.co.uk/lotmag.htm">
for the Lamp of Thoth Magazine</a> but we haven't heard from him for years . You can see some of Michael's stuff on
<a href="http://www.cfpf.org.uk">
http://www.cfpf.org.uk</a> Say hello to him for me when you see him. BB Denise W. ]
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Halloween
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posted by sylvia and chris
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I feel all faiths and celebrations for each year should be respected and appreciated as long as the faith or celebration does not cause serious harm or damage or death to a person.
Halloween is seen as a celebration for spiritual purposes as well as the time of bonfire night approaching, there are people who strongly believe in the afterlife and there are people who do not, people who do not believe in a certain faith or celebration should not criticise and demand a ban on it as long as it is a safe practicing faith and does no harm to another person.
There are things people should worry about more in this world and focus on removing the evils like terrorism, violence etc from the world rather than panic about a halloween celebration ban.
Respect each other, help each other in times of need,to many people turn a blind eye to crime and things and the world is getting out of control by not doing things like they used to by helping each other.
not being anti, just pointing out life is getting harder to survive and the world needs healing.Fireworks get in the wrong hands these days, people fear them rather than enjoy them, selling these in shops should be banned and only allow proper safe displays.
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[Infoburst: I appreciate your sentiments of peace and liberality but there's a contradiction in your thinking. The qualification 'As long as faiths don't cause harm'. There's more blood on the hands of the world's largest religions than could ever be put onto minority beliefs - and there are plenty of truly honourable attempts to do good which inadvertently cause harm, so harm itself is not the criterion for banning or not banning. And neither is danger. It is a retrograde step to ban anything with risk just because a few troublemakers can misuse it. Life has risks and politicians cannot remove risks. They know it but try to fool you into thinking otherwise.
BB Denise W. ]
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RE: Halloween Church of England
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posted by PaddyMagick
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No Guy on the bonfire, though you used to get the odd Maggy.
Smiles
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Halloween Church of England
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posted by AnnB
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Dear Denise thankyou for jogging the little grey cells I was going to write on this subject the fact the Irish don't celebrate Nov.5th for the reason of Guy Fawkes being burnt on the fire. Instead they celebrate Halloween with fireworks
Each to own though it gets a little muddled somewhere in peoples heads
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RE: Halloween
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posted by Ricenpeas
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Hi Lily, I agree we should all respect the faith of others as long as there not using it as a stick to beat me with. The trouble seems to arise when people assosiate there ideas with the source of all creation, God. By even saying the word God we personify Him/Her and some go on to say that God is this, or God is that, even with there own system of belife saying that God is everything. For most Celebrating God gives purpose and forfilment but to some it gives them a Crusaid, which is what is happening here with the BANNING of a Pagan festival.
BestWishes
Ricenpeas
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RE: Halloween
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posted by lily
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.......all faiths have some value, icluding the church of e. I was brought up a Catholic and love going to Fireworks nights pumpkins etc etc but I would say there is only one God, who is the Creator of all and whom we should all have respect/reverence.
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[Infoburst: Ah well lily, you should go to our other thread for the 'one god' debate because someone there might have a god you don't like and on your premiss above it would still be the One god which you would have to adhere to. Initiates say that people make gods in their own image to fulfill a missing part of their own psychology. When you said that as a catholic you love going to Fireworks displays at this time of year I wonder if you are aware that the burning of the effigy of Guy Fawkes here on November 5th is a Puritan celebration of the defeat of papism in the U.K. and an institutionalised form of anti-Catholicism not far removed from Kristelnacht but nicely camouflaged behind the ancient Need Fires of the pagan festival of Samhain! Would that be the one Catholic God, or the one Protestant God then? Makes you fink donnit? BB Denise W. ]
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Halloween
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posted by AnnB
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Forgot to mention the Carthars wiped out for their beliefs
and during a transfigration I saw with a friend once a most malevolent Crusader came through staring straight at me challenging me to bow my head in fear but me I just stared straight back and he was the first to look away. That took a lot of faith and a lot of belief but I called on all I think of to protect me.
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Halloween
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posted by AnnB
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Sorry better late than have just signed your worthy petition
No one has the right to foist their beliefs on anyone and to treat a child to such misery is totally abhorrent to a clucking hen like me I defy anyone to teach or hurt my grandchildren in any way.
Halloween is great fun for the tinies and we love to see them going round in their littlecostumes completely innocent of all things as they should be.
Keep alive your faith it is a precious thing it gives you peace and dignity.
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RE: CHURCH OF ENGLAND SETS UP CAMPAIGN TO BAN HALLOWEEN
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posted by Julian Karswell
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When I saw the Anglicans trying to link Samhain with child harm on their website, and by implication painting those who celebrate the festival with child abuse, I was floored.
Occasionally I awake with nightmares - I'm reliving a childhood terror. My Church of England Junior school took a school party to visit a church. I'd recently had death brought into my life for the first time by my Grandfather's passing. Still trying to recover from this frightening event, I, with the rest of my class, was forced to sit in a side chapel at church, staring at a grey stone carving of human skulls with serpents slithering through them. Whilst mortified by this image, we were told how we were inherently evil, and that our only hope in the long term was to keep Jesus pleased with us.
No message of love, no hope (unless you were really good, we were told - but then, we were reminded, given the way the world was set up in original sin, we were quite likely to fail), we were miserable kids whose only worth was provided by someone else - God.
Now, 40 years on, I still wake at night with the image of those skulls in my mind, bleak and terrifying.
I feel some runes coming on*
* Fundamentalists - this last bit - about the runes - is just a joke. It was only a film (or short story depending how educated you are).
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[Infoburst: You make some VERY pertinent points Julian. The most important one is this. Are the lives of Christians corrupted due to being indoctrinated with the fear of death as children before they can discern the truth for themselves. The Jesuits had a saying: Give me a child before he is 8 and I will show you the man. Marabas thinks it is indicative that Christian fundamentalists are always the ones who claim to know most about evil and the first to point the finger of guilt at other religions whose approach to death is different. What say you. BB Denise W.
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RE: CHURCH OF ENGLAND SETS UP CAMPAIGN TO BAN HALLOWEEN
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posted by Paul
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I've passed the link to those that I know and will forward it onto other sites.
Happy Samhain!
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