The S.A.F.F. (Sub-culture Alternatives Freedom Foundation) is a not-for-profit organisation which was inaugurated in 1988 to protect minority religions and alternative beliefs from victimisation and suppression. We have successfuly achieved sterling work in protecting the interests of individuals and unorthodox philosophies in the U.K. and worked with similar organisations overseas. Our work is completed entirely by volunteers dedicated to keeping open the freedom of belief and right to free-speech of individuals worldwide. If you think you might be able to assist in this, or want to join us as a member then please first review the content of website and then contact Tony Rhodes or add your email address to our mailings file (see below)
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RE: YOU ARE CENSORING MY POSTS HERE !!
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posted by Moderator
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A genuine opportunity has arisen for the people involved in this case to get a public hearing. However we could not contact them because the original poster clearly used a false email, and "concerned" was so concerned, that the email address he/she provided has bounced.
If any of you are reading this, there is a small window of opportunity for you if contact us as saff@uk.net ASAP.
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RE: YOU ARE CENSORING MY POSTS HERE !!
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posted by Tony Rhodes
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There's hardly any point in venting frustration on us when what Concerned and his friends want is to get their stolen kids back! The SAFF is here to highlight the injustices caused by the misuse of SS power. We do this in many ways and one of them is to highlight the appalling treatment meted out to innocent people all over the U.K. We want to collate and display MORE cases like yours. However, the problem we find in these conflicts is that most of the SS's victims are chosen precisely because they either have great difficulty expressing themselves or in frustration default to anger or violence which simply 'confirms' the 'risks' specified by the bigoted social workers. We can see the reason for your insults and have not in any way banned or censored you or your friends but the SS are clever people and hide behind the libel laws. You cannot therefore simply say what you want to say on our forum. Firstly if you include any details which can be used to identify you it will work in reverse and cause you MORE trouble not less. Secondly we are not about to make ourselves vulnerable to writs without having detailed documentary proof of the allegations you are making. This approach ensures that every statement on this site can be trusted. Our moderators must censor any details, locations, addresses, names, titles etc., which might identify the poster of the information. If, when this is done, the posting has lost meaning then we delete it and ask users to re-post. We WANT other people to hear personal stories of victimisation by the SS and victims usually want to leave their details on our files where it can work to protect others from suffering the same injustices. Why don't you write out the details of your case and email them to SAFF@uk2.net where we can , confidentially, make the best use of them, and rearrange your statement sans identification before posting it on our forum?
Tony Rhodes
Director SAFF
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RE: YOU ARE CENSORING MY POSTS HERE !!
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posted by Concerned
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I know of the person you refer to on here and its VERY understandable why they would want their identity hidden, they speak of their despicable treatment of the UK social services network, how the social workers have lied in court to protect themselves and the sheer frustration of taking on social services and their veil of secrecy in the ‘family courts’. I too am of the opinion that these courts and the wrong doing of so called fellow human beings against other ‘real ‘people’ is horrendous and am a firm believer that each and every one of us is entitled the ‘freedom of speech’ to say what we want and not be bound by gagging orders that are put in place, lets face it “to hide the truth”. This is the biggest issue of our time and “if allowed” to become public will make headline news just like it did in New Zealand. It needs to be said and people need to be free to say what they want. I doubt your concerns are one bit true that “you are protecting them” by removing their post, you too are in fear of the repercussions of taking on social services by having their wrong doings mentioned on your web page, such is their power! People make mistakes in every profession, people lie in every profession, but name me one where the people who make the mistakes are not accountable? Name me one that if you make a mistake that will leave emotional scars on the victims’ for the rest of their lives that allows you to walk away and your error ‘doesn’t exist’? They need to be exposed, it is the single thing they dread, in today’s world there is no place for this secrecy and there is no way they will stop the publicity of their wrong doings without accountability, this one is going to grow, its only a matter of time.
Stand up to them, see what happens it would be interesting to know if they would be in touch in an attempt to close your site. Somehow I doubt you have the nerve.
Sites are two a penny, they can’t close them all.
I know only too well of the mistreatment of parents who in many instances aren’t given so much as chance once the ‘SS’ are involved in their lives its ‘legalised child abduction’. So many parallels in that ‘SS’ term, may they have the same fate.
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RE: YOU ARE CENSORING MY POSTS HERE !!
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posted by Moderator
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Interesting. I'm the person charged with moderating this board and I have removed some posts, and emailed the addresses provided by posters with reasons why. I didn't send any insults though. A lot of these emails just bounced back showing that some of these people had concerns about being identified.
Most of the posts I have deleted were of a nature that, had the authorities traced the people behind them, they could have been in serious legal hot water for posting material of that nature.
In several instances, where valid email addresses were supplied, the SAFF went further and provided information to help in their stated predicament.
I am presuming you are either one of the people to whom my email bounced, or one of the malicious posters that all boards get from time to time.
I will be leaving this current post so that people can see that we do, as your rightly observe, remove some posts. Your second thread seems to serve no purpose so this will shortly be deleted.
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YOU ARE CENSORING MY POSTS HERE !!
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posted by WHY DO TOU CENSOR MY POSTS?
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My OH my my words are being censored IN THIS MESSAGE BOARD, yellow bellied chicken shits
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