Oklahoma City Lesbian Message Board
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RE: political TV adds
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posted by anom
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Boogie
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RE: political TV adds
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posted by religionofself.blogspot.com
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You see a lot of Bible thumpers on death bed watches. It seems that God and the bible become important to all of us when life ebs. If it were not for morality none of us could be safe in expressing ourself. Chaos is the end result of excluding morals from society. It is the right thing to do and all know it.
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RE: Another opinion in a free nation that will be deleted
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posted by religionofself.blogspot.com
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No I would not agree that there are only six...maybe sixty or six hundred examples and they are not off based. Every person that I ever met know what is moral and what is not. As I look around me I see nature using natural means to continue the species. My pets know. The animals that prowl the woods know. I know. God knows.
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RE: Another opinion in a free nation that will be deleted
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posted by religionofself.blogspot.com
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I have read your arguments many times in the gay press and it just is not true..fabrication with the aim of deception. Search the bible for yourself...and why do you care...if there is no God...then ...no problem. As far as slavery goes...do you really think you are not a slave today? The Fortune 500 familys rule you and I more than those slaves in the bible ever dreamed.
Can you walk into a bank and borrow a million dollars on your signature...some can. Would you be considered for high office...some are. Can you enrole your child in the ivy league schools with just a phone call...come can.
Same sex mock breeding is and will forever in the area of lust and not love. The bible has detractors who say the things you say about translatuion problems but the Dead Sea scrolls were buried for 2000 years and had several books of the bible that were exact in their content to modern bibles.
The Creator of the universe designed everything with a purpose and to subvert that purpose is a choice of free will but you can expect the lovers of truth and God will not applaud. If you choose all roosters for your chicken flock you will have no eggs for your table. Some things are self evident for all to see the truth of life. Take a look.
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RE: More for Molly
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posted by Molly
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Why do you think that the gay and lesbian movement is a threat to morality and civilization? We're not trying to tell people how to live their lives, we just want the same in return. Straight people can't get fired from a job, be denied housing, and typically are not threatened physically because of who they choose to spend their lives with--why can't we have the same in return? Why can't gay couples be married and enjoy the same legal benefits that marriages offers in terms of being recognized by the government as "the next of kin," insurance, etc.? I know many gay and lesbian couples who have been together for well over 10 years but yet my 2 brothers' marriages wound up in divorce after 4 and 11 years (the latter had many instances of cheating going on), yet they are allowed to remarry and have the protections by the law that my friends can't. Where is the justice in that?
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RE: Another opinion in a free nation that will be deleted
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posted by Molly
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You are making a judgment (and a misinformed one at that), not against an individual, but against a segment of the population when you make comments about "gay lesbian propagation is a matter of recruitment and not a biological event." Scientific studies how shown that there is a biological component to a person's sexual orientation. Furthermore, in other species of animals, it has become obvious that there are some animals that are attracted to the same sex, versus the opposite sex. Is there "recruitment" going on within other species?
You said a mouthful when you said that you "must do as my understanding of what my Creator wants His believers to do and inform others of my beliefs." You implied personal interpretation of the Bible by saying that because as we all know, Jesus, the Son of God, said NOTHING with regards to homosexuality. Furthermore, there is no such word for homosexuality in the language of which the Bible was originally written. I then ask you, how much to you think has been lost or added during the course of translation into English? And let's not forget that the Bible wasn't written as things happen--it was passed verbally over centuries--don't you think something could have been altered during the course of passing it along verbally over the centuries--much like the game that is played when there is a circle of people and one person whispers a message to the next person and it goes around the room and is often very different by the time it gets to the last person. To take the Bible literally is dangerous. Look how much modern society has realized that stuff that was written in the Bible that is "okay" to do doesn't apply to modern day standards (e.g. that slavery is okay, to cut off a person's hand who steals, etc.) Having said all of that, wouldn't you agree that it's possible that the 6 Bible phrases that mention homosexuality may be off-based?
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More for Molly
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posted by religionofself.blogspot.com
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Someone once said that "Normal is that which functions according to design" The Designer in my bible wishes to be recognized as such. Sin as you charcterized it was a very important part of my life for years (I am 70) but as I added gray matter my attention turned to things eternal.
Your reply shows you to be a caring and gentle person. I have no ax to grind againest people who pleasure themselves by loving the same sex but I must do as my understanding of what my Creator wants His believers to do and inform others of my beliefs. I have visited glbt sites because I am learning about the movement. I consider the aims of the movement a threat to morality and civilization.A study of history shows my fears have happened before when people loved pleasure more that God. Let us throw words at each other gently on the internet and try to come to common ground instead of stones on the streets.
It is the radical "who do not love" in both our groups that "hate". Most of the people who gather under "steeples" are caring loving giving working good neighbors. Most of the same sex couples I observce in my life seem to be caring of each other. I have grown daughters who have grown children who overcame their fling at the lure of same sex activity so I am not without knowlege in this area. We both can do as we will so I must continure to learn and preach.
Jaylin
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RE: Another opinion in a free nation that will be deleted
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posted by religionofself.blogspot.com
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Pehaps you believe that neither of us is sinning but may I believe that I am sinning and trying to stop...but I can only preach in general at others...I can not make individual judgements...that is for the Creator to do from my perspective.
My hope is to avoid eternal judgement by judging myself in the tempral.
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I love the internet and can visit any site I want just as you. This is the only GLBT site I have posted on.
As a young SciFi reader fifty years ago I waited for this medium to be invented! Buck Rogers and others used a type of cathode ray screen communication in the fiction of the time.
Hate is a word defined by the user and we should not hate even our those who hate us. Certainly we should defend our family and nation from harm but that is not hate.
I injoy people even those whom I disagre with. The body of scripture urging humans to avoid same sex lust and activity is overwhelming and clearly on the side of normality. It is not about sin as you use the word...it is about pleasing our Creator and doing his will.
thanks for caring enought to reply.
Jaylin
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RE: Another opinion in a free nation that will be deleted
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posted by Molly
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I was wondering how long it would take before a "hater" would post a message here. . .
Gay and lesbian propagation is all about recruitment, eh? If that's the case, someone forgot to send me my toaster when I came out:-)
I wonder why it is that someone who runs an anti-gay blog such as yourself, would want to visit a "perverted" lesbian site? Perhaps it's because you're curious--that's okay if you are. I've often wondered about those religious types who protest so much if they aren't closet cases trying to mask their gayness with religion.
God made me the way I am--a lesbian, something I cannot change and the only choice I had about the matter was being true to myself. One of the Ten Commandments clearly states that one should not lie and to pretend that I'm not gay would be a lie. There isn't a commandment saying that one should not be gay, just like there isn't one saying that one shouldn't be a biot either so I guess neither of us is sinning.
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Another opinion in a free nation that will be deleted
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posted by religionofself.blogspot.com
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Gay lesbian propagation is a matter of recruitment and not a biological event. Massive ongoing public relations campaigns that runs from the Gay-lesbian censorship groups during production of movies and media to the quota hiring of gays, lesbians and other transgendered sex addicts. Although few in number (percentage wise) they weld big sticks at the corporate level in our country. It is all about recruitment and painting their perverted life style as an exciting and wonderful adventure. With almost no offspring the gays have all that extra time and money to put into recruiting more perverts. From out and out contributions elicited from major corporations in the interest of so called freedom and fairness to downright bribery with their bedfellows from the ACLU backing them all the way their techniques work and fill the coffers of radical sexuality organizations all over the country. The target is our young and the aim is to indoctrinate them in the ways of perversion. With huge egocentric tendencies the gay lesbian population face a leadership problem in that they all think themselves to be the leader. This debases the impact of their huge resources and will in the end lead to their downfall. In the final analysis a movement built on unmerited pride, junk psychology and elitist presumptions will go the way of the lemmings.
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