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Topic Tarot packs posted by Gessar Khan User
posted on May 02, 2015 at 11:27 PM Reply to this Message Write
Hello I'm looking for the Wegmuller packs, the Gipsy (Zieuguner) Tarot and New Age (Neuzeit) Tarot plus Slinger-Douglass Secret Dakini Oracle. Can you give a quote on each please. Many thanks
GK.
Topic Tarot packs posted by Gessar Khan User
posted on May 02, 2015 at 11:27 PM Reply to this Message Write
Hello I'm looking for the Wegmuller packs, the Gipsy (Zieuguner) Tarot and New Age (Neuzeit) Tarot plus Slinger-Douglass Secret Dakini Oracle. Can you give a quote on each please. Many thanks
GK.
Topic RE: Rider Waite Tarot: Final word ? posted by moon User
posted on January 01, 2009 at 03:30 PM Reply to this Message Write
Thanks you Denise and all all who contributed to this thread. I am enrolled for a local Tarot class on Wed. nights and they require this deck. I was looking for a Rider made version. I just ordered one from here.

Kudos to S.A.!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!!!!


moon
Topic RE: Rider Waite Tarot: Final word ? posted by moon User
posted on January 01, 2009 at 10:46 AM Reply to this Message Write
Good information!!!


Thanks,

Moon
Topic Rider Waite Tarot: Final word ? posted by Anonymous User
posted on July 03, 2008 at 09:42 PM Reply to this Message Write
Three part explanation of the Rider-Waite Tarot 'editions' confusion:


1)The SA's Rider-Waite Tarot are made by Rider of London. I have no idea of
how much stock SA have but what I can tell you is that these are the last
ones made by Rider and the best available. They are excellent quality. Once
the are gone you'll be stuck with the 'Original Rider waite deck' below:

2) Rider is now owned by Random House and they subcontract manufacturing of
the 'Original Rider Waite Tarot Deck' to a company in Italy where they make
a facsimile of an old 1910 deck, slightly different from the ones Rider made
(different because the colours are faded, etc, antique looking). These card
are marked (c) US Games 1971 because US Games (Stuart kaplan) have bought all
rights to the names Rider tarot/Waite Tarot, etc from Waite's daughter, and
Rider/Random can only now print new decks under licence from USG (losing
anyone ?) You can compare RW/ORW at http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/original-rider-waite/

3) America: The authorised American Waite Tarot is the US Games version of
1971 available in several sizes, so ignoring the sizes there are THREE
versions of the Rider/Waite Tarot.
Topic RE: Pocket and mini Waite cards posted by Anonymous User
posted on July 02, 2008 at 11:43 AM
edited on July 02, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Reply to this Message Write
Hi AJ, mine are the same size as the stanard playing cards but if the minituare ones was what Denise was referring to then I can see why she said they were not much use but I get on fine with mine.
<P><I>
[Infoburst: AJ is quite right. The ones we sold as 'pocket or miniature' Rider Waites were the smaller ones which were about 4 x 8 cm and it was these to which I was referring. To my mind their only advantage was that you could take them with you anywhere and, if necessary, even do a fortune spread on your knees on a train or bus etc., BB Denise W. ]</P></I>
Topic Pocket and mini Waite cards posted by AJ User
posted on July 02, 2008 at 11:32 AM Reply to this Message Write
Re Pocket edition of the RW there were 2 of these, one interchangea
-bly called pocket and 'miniature edition'. The miniature really
was a novelty, a good bit smaller than playing cards, smaller than
a credit card. (AJ)
Topic RE: Which Tarot Decks do you sell/recommend ? posted by Anonymous User
posted on July 02, 2008 at 10:24 AM
edited on July 02, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Reply to this Message Write
Hi Denise,
Why do you feel that the pocket edition were not much use? I did and still do still have the full size deck but was forever dropping them when I tried to shuffle due to the size of them so I purchased the smaller size which has identical symbollogy so therefore are as good for divination as the larger deck in my opinion....correct me if I have missed your point.
<P><I>
I didn't say they weren't any good for divination I said they weren't any good for magical purposes (i.e. too small/impractical to be used as symbol/meditation cards). We cannot tell from here how a client is going to use their cards -for divination or for meditation. Because the Rider was the first deck with the possibility of using the cards as meditational gateways to the pathways to the tree of life they need to be of a size which you can see without strain from a cross-legged position or seated in front of an altar and the smaller cards aren't large enough for that. Have you tried shuffling the regular sized pack end on? That works for me, even with Crowley's thoth deck. ;-) BB Denise W.
Topic RE: Rider-Waite Blue pack/editions ? posted by Alan User
posted on July 01, 2008 at 08:26 PM
edited on July 02, 2008 at 12:51 PM
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I have the Rider-Waite. I no longer have the box and can't remember now
what was on it, whether serpent or wheel of fortune ? I have an instruction
book that says Rider & Co, vauxhall, London, yet the cards are printed
US Games on the border. Again same background of lilies/roses and yes the
blue is turquoise blue, but not really green. They have good colours and
very plasticised. Does SA maybe have stock with an earlier box as official
site for Rider/Random house has the box John describes. Likewise, if SA
have a better deck, a picture might help if there is a link ?

I also have several editions of the Crowley-Thoth which vary from each other.
Old 2-piece white box OTO design is very smart but the cards aren't so good compared to modern editions: no 'spider-web' on the borders and a greenishness
to all the cards. Keep well, Alan.
<P><I>[Infoburst: Hi Alan, Well I see I have kicked over a rat's nest of possibilities here. Firstly can I ask anyone contributing to this thread to say in which country they purchased their cards as obviously we only have partial knowledge of U.S editions? Rights issues were different in the U.S. to the U.K. and different boxes and back designs were used from edition to edition. The oldest Rider-Waite pack I and Marabas remember had the Fortuna card printed on the front of the box but on checking our little 'museum' here I found a 1993 edition pack with Temperance on the front! The oldest Rider-Waite pack we have (from the late 1970s has blue cross-hatching on the back of the cards (v.traditional). The current printing on our shelves has Fleur de Lys on the backs instead and so does the 1993 edition I mentioned. The later editions too all seem to have an Orouborous snake on the 'fly' card but the oldest pack doesn't! I reckon we need some Tarot historian who has kept track of the various editions to enlighten us, though it makes no difference magically, it is still a most necessary pack. BB Denise W. </I></P>
Topic Rider-Waite Blue pack/editions ? posted by John User
posted on July 01, 2008 at 11:18 AM Reply to this Message Write
Hi Denise,
Thanks for the info on Rider-Waite Blue pack. I am wondering if
they are the same as the ones I have (one of few items I did not
obtain from SA as they were a Xmas gift). The box mine came in
identified Rider of London, but had a serpent biting it's tail
in a circle; blue card backs with white rose/lilies ? The box
title was 'Original Rider Waite Tarot Deck'. If yours are
different cards rather than just the box edition I'd be interested
in buying a deck.

Best Regards,

John.

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